Editioning

[Gail Stiffe]

I have a question about editioning. If I make books that differ only in the substrate e.g. I make some on commercial paper and some on handmade paper would they be considered to be one edition or two?

[Doug Spowart]

Hello Gail,

You could consider that both are the same edition and that the 'handmade' paper or the commercial paper could be a 'variant' of the edition

Just a thought

Cheers

Doug

[Caren Florance]

Or the commercial one is one edition and the handmade is the 'deluxe' version of the same edition... so physically two editions but nominally one edition with two versions. You would number the commercial in arabic numerals and the deluxe in Roman numerals.

I'm getting deja vu -- didn't we have this thread somewhere else?

[Gail Stiffe]

Caren Florance said:

Or the commercial one is one edition and the handmade is the 'deluxe' version of the same edition... so physically two editions but nominally one edition with two versions. You would number the commercial in arabic numerals and the deluxe in Roman numerals.

I'm getting deja vu -- didn't we have this thread somewhere else?

Yes I put it in a blog too and have decided to go the way of the two editions.

[Gail Stiffe]

Doug Spowart said:

Hello Gail,

You could consider that both are the same edition and that the 'handmade' paper or the commercial paper could be a 'variant' of the edition

Just a thought

Cheers

Doug

Thanks Doug and thanks for the review of SCU book show, I wish I could have seen it.

[Charles Brownson]

Gail,
Speaking as a textual bibliographer they are one edition if there are no textual differences and can be ascertained to have been published (left the press) at the same time. If there are physical differences and there is a significant difference in publication date they might be considered as two editions from a librarian's point of view but to the bibliographer these are 'states'. If there are textual differences between copies which belong to one batch of presswork these are 'variants'. Consult Carter's ABC For Book Collectors or one of the manuals of textual bibliography. However, from your POV I think this is niggling. If you want to c all them separate editions for commercial purposes or whatever you are free to do so, and anyway the application of bibliographic practices developed for pre-20th century print is squiffy.
Charles

[Gail Stiffe]

Charles Brownson said:

Gail,
Speaking as a textual bibliographer they are one edition if there are no textual differences and can be ascertained to have been published (left the press) at the same time. If there are physical differences and there is a significant difference in publication date they might be considered as two editions from a librarian's point of view but to the bibliographer these are 'states'. If there are textual differences between copies which belong to one batch of presswork these are 'variants'. Consult Carter's ABC For Book Collectors or one of the manuals of textual bibliography. However, from your POV I think this is niggling. If you want to c all them separate editions for commercial purposes or whatever you are free to do so, and anyway the application of bibliographic practices developed for pre-20th century print is squiffy.
Charles

Thanks Charles,
I've decided to go with two editions since there were other differences apart from the paper between the two.