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A group to discuss book art in e-book form or any other computer/internet/screen based book form. From iphone books to twitter.

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Latest Activity: Jan 31

Links to free artists' e-books:

Eleanor Dare's hybrid book project: http://www.doc.gold.ac.uk/~ma501ed/south/south_Download.html

A Twitter e-book experiment by Abigail Thomas: http://twitter.com/everyweekness

A link to another Twitter project by booktwo.org: http://twitter.com/booktwo

A liberature e-book/hypertext/internet piece by Radosław
Nowakowski: http://www.liberlandia.net/

This is an interesting project I stumbled across: http://www.artistsebooks.org/

Saw this advert for Alice in Wonderland interactive ebook for the ipad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gew68Qj5kxw

 

interesting e-marginalia project: http://thegoldennotebook.org/

 

Institute for the Future of the Book: http://www.futureofthebook.org/  and their open source e-book program: http://www.futureofthebook.org/sophie/ 

 

Charles Brownson ebooks: http://ocotilloarts.com

Please send me (Abigail Thomas) a message with links to your books to add to this list, or post a comment below.

Discussion Forum

Kindle/Nook/Kobo etc... Artists' ebooks?

Started by Abigail Thomas. Last reply by Frespech Dec 10, 2011. 19 Replies

I have just bought the new Kindle; I know a book art friend who has made a Kindle artists' book, but wondered how and…Continue

Tags: book, art, digital, sony, kobo

iphone as an ebook reader

Started by Abigail Thomas. Last reply by Frespech Aug 13, 2011. 6 Replies

So has anyone used an iphone as an ebook reader yet? Is it any good? Is there potential for making good book art with, or for, them? And has anyone actually made any yet?

Tags: book, art, books, artists, ebook

SMS, MMS (Mobile phone) books

Started by Abigail Thomas. Last reply by Abigail Thomas Jan 25, 2011. 3 Replies

Was trying to find some info on mobile phone (non smart-phone) art; book art or otherwise. Google has failed me a bit. I know there must be some artists who have used this media in the past or…Continue

Tags: phones, mobile, mms, sms

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Comment by Pat Hodson on January 20, 2013 at 5:00

It's interesting reading the debate about what is or isn't a book. Some artists have for years, been trying to define what is or isn't an artists book. I remember exhibiting a silk scroll in the mid 90's at a book fair and three people got into an argument about whether or not it was a book. What matters is the idea surely, which might lead to something that hangs on a wall, stands on a floor, or a time based piece, shown on a screen or a book. Even then, I ask myself whether the wonderful 'companion stones' with carved text that I keep discovering in odd places on walks in the peak district are books or sculptures.

When I self published 'Iceland Stories', (a collaborative book of images, poems and a cd of soundscapes), I had already made a unique version, which took a year in which every page was hand collaged, then digitally printed. It became two books in a box and was so heavy that I have only been able to afford to exhibit it once because of the high costs of postage. By using Blurb I could make a book which is more affordable. I could have done it on my own printer, on rag paper but the time this would have taken would have again limited my audience.  It didn't have tactile pages, but the paper quality is good, Blurb templates for InDesign allow for control of colour management so book colour is spot on to what I see on my computer. We could only afford to print 100 copies, but by making virtually no profit, not using distributors or bookshops, we have managed to sell 60. There was an option to convert it to an enhanced E book for the ipad and iphone. I was not sure how successful it would be, but since the conventional book contained not only poetry and images, but a cd of soundscapes and poetry readings by one of my collaborators it seemed a good way to test out how the whole thing works. First, it is not an interactive one (hopefully that will be my next project). This means that the poetry can be read on the screen, but also, when a link is pressed, readings from the poems, with sounds of Iceland are heard immediately, rather than taking out a CD and putting it in to a machine. Another thing - I was able to add some video clips made by the sound artist - and, on the final page a recorded conversation of the three of us sharing ideas in Iceland. The process of converting was not straightforward. Images all transferred beautifully, but text was all over the place. I had a good deal of editing and changing fonts. Finally, getting the book approved on the Apple website was a nightmare. However, it is now all uploaded, and we can sell it at a much lower price than the paper version. I like both. I love turning the page in the paper book, but the sound and video on screen give it a whole new dimension. Yes it is clunky compared with making a movie with Final Cut, but it may reach a different audience.

The point is, that the same book can be made by hand, machine, shown on a screen. I love the idea of widening the audience, and I love the power that technology gives me to do this.

Comment by Zea Morvitz on March 3, 2012 at 15:27

Re: the Library Journal study, I'm really glad that public libraries have embraced ebooks. Now that I've got my iphone set up to visit the library, I've downloaded and read many, many novels. Browslng through the ebook lists in my local online library reminds of the hours I used to spend in the physical stacks. So, that is one very positive aspect of the current ebook situation. But I think it is true that the form of the book, now that it can be purely digital, is bound to change and move away from the turnable  (or swipeable) page. The challenge is to present content that you can look at (read, gaze at) consistently and that moves logically from one batch of text or image to the next. Hypertexting still doesn't feel "natural" or comfortable to me. I think this is one reason the book format has not just evaporated.

Comment by Charles Brownson on March 3, 2012 at 7:50

Here's something which might be interesting to those concerned about the displacement of paper by ebooks. It's a speech to the Book Industry Study Group concerning a study which Library Journal did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PGlFzxk7Ts&feature=mfu_in_order... I wonder what implications this might have for the artists' e-book project?

Comment by Aine Scannell on January 6, 2012 at 7:04

Here's something  I came across on a site called Creatives at Work. 
The editor is Eileen Fritsch - her aims with the blog are around  "how technology is changing career paths for artists, designers, photographers and writers"
I found this article which I just received in my newsletter from her called 
"Book Publishing Trends that Will Affect Aspiring Authors"
http://creativesatworkblog.com/2012/01/book-publishing-trends-that-...


interesting

Aine

Comment by Lisa Iversen on December 10, 2011 at 0:58

It's also a subject of interest on the Book Arts Listserv today. 

Comment by Charles Brownson on December 10, 2011 at 0:19

No sooner asked... Alicia Bailey posted on Facebook the link http://www.volumique.com/en/ to some people asking these very questions.

Comment by Charles Brownson on December 10, 2011 at 0:07

I wonder if we should shift this discussion over to the 21st Century Book group? Pickaxe, I'm not going to reply point-by-point in order to keep my post short. Abigail asked where to find people who are experimenting with artists e-books and the question has become "What are we looking for?" Your critique of the turning page simulation exposes a big piece of the problem: that we are in the very early stages of a technology shift, that book artists aren't up to date on programming and design in this area, and that we are trying to talk about this with inherited terminology which is not always functional. Your reformulation of my reformulation as "what are we doing different that entitles us to claim a piece of the digital world as book art" is surely foundational when paired with your other question: why would we want to claim that piece in the first place? Leave the (now traditional)[!] book arts where they are and embark on a new expedition. The same thing happened to artists who called themselves painters and sculptors and so on when they got the urge to do things which came to be called installations, performance art, conceptual art and other uncertain designations. Looking back we can see that the sequence goes from imagining what to do to working out how to do it to what to call it. I don't think we've got beyond the first step, and we won't until someone presents us with compelling work -- work which asks important new questions now exposed and facilitated by the new technology. What entitles us to make claims to the technology as artists is the need to get past e-toys to something more sublime. Think cave art. So: who is working on this and what have they done and is it in any way compelling?

Comment by Pickaxe Publishing on December 9, 2011 at 23:00

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to diminish or discourage book artists from doing anything they do in any medium. I think your question is quite valid. To further your question, I would ask; "what would a book artist do with this medium/these mediums that differs from what an other practitioner/s would do with it". What is the sensibilty that differs? What are the cares, fascinations and anxieties which define someone who is commited to books, and not video, or painting, or installation.

Also, I would put this question back to you: Why is it necessarily about enlarging what book artists do and not a part of a larger discussion about what 'Art" is and possibly could be.

Why is it a problem for book artists to step out of the realm of "The Book" and explore other realms of expression? Is it that there is such a long tradition of justifying artist's books (as a form of "Art" with a capital 'A') that we have forgotten how to simply practice without justifying the form that it takes?

I am not trying to define what a book is or isn't either. That is not for me to decide. My view is that people are talking about well trodden forms of new media and 'new possibilities' without any understanding of what ground has been covered by other practitioners in that medium (albeit outside of "Art"), or what the nature and limitations of that medium are.

For example, there is some kind of romanticism for websites which play a"turning page" animation when you click on 'next page'. This kind of animation predates web pages and was included in many adventure games from the late 80's/early 90s. Even on the Amiga 500, games had animations of the "turning page" where a bit of parchment would turn to reveal more of the 'pirate' or other fantasy adventure you were experiencing/reading. This screen based animation was always a facsimile of the real to evoke something absent. To want to recreate this romantic notion of the "ancient omniscient text", as does the kindle and other reading devices, it is a fantasy device: that is where it came from. It is a simulacrum. If we want to approach these "new" mediums (and I say ""new"", as nothing is without its history, as is most of the 'currency' of forms we're discussing which is at stake) then we must look for ways to speak of truth, not facsimile. In this way, I see talking about books in these new forms as a fallacy, it is a black swan (being Aussie, I know the irony of the black swan).

An SMS will never be a book. A Blog is not a book. A Website is not a book. Why must we talk in these terms, if at all. What I am asking is why can't book artists talk about what they are doing within the context that they are operating. "I am a Book Artist who is making a work using telecommunication technology", rather than "I am making a book using SMS technology"? "I am making a web based book", could be; "I am a book artist working with online tech". I am asking to call a spade a spade. I feel sometimes this whole debate is fueled a certain level of ignorance to what has come before. These new forms are not without their own context and historical relevance. 

Why must we think and have a discourse of book arts which is limiting? Only as Book Artists? Only as making books and never engaging with new forms and ALWAYS relating to the book? Why can't we be multi-disciplinary practitioners that bring a certain sensibility to new forms, with centuries of accumulated experience passed down from predecessors, tactile desires and needs, regard for traditional methods that are proven, but experience enough to disregard them when required. I make books and other things.

Like you, Charles, I am excited by what book artists will bring, but I don't agree with what I perceive sometimes to be a 'colonisation' of new forms in the name of the book, or looking for the book where it is not. Can't we get outside our own form to see what ground we are operating on now. I think we need to watch the Language we use around these forms, especially when our peers are trying to define a "canon" of Artist's Books.

New tech is great, but I do not think it is a "book" per se.

Is it that artists book practitioners struggle with the breakdown of their identity when the form  of the "book" is threatened? Is this "threat" perceived also to be aimed at them? I do not see things this way. I think we must prescribe to a multi modal identity as practitioners if we are to proceed through this black forest of mediums and technologies. Not as book artists, but simply,.. as artists (who happen to really love books and hope they never go away, and they won't if I have anything to do about it...)

Comment by Charles Brownson on December 9, 2011 at 15:27

Hmm. I'm not happy with either Pickaxe's attempt to define a book -- something which always leads into a morass -- nor Tim Mosely's and others attempts not to define it, simply pointing at what they do. Neither engages with the question, which I take to be "Is there something interesting a book artist can do with the digital (networked) medium which would enlarge what it is book artists do?" Probably there is. What? Will I know it when I see it? Probably not.

Comment by Pickaxe Publishing on December 9, 2011 at 13:43

I think it is not really appropriate to talk about websites as books, nor is it appropriate to talk about multimedia works as books. These kinds of things have a historicity of their own, and a context that they work within and come from that needs to be acknowledged. They are certainly the sons, daughters, neices, nephews and grandchildren of all things book, but to make this equation between them, I think is incorrect. Does anyone remeber the Multimedia CD Rom? I remeber encountering them circa (Windows) '95. They ended Encyclopedia Britannica and all kinds of subscription encyclopedias marketed toward Primary and Early secondary students. These were not books, but an extension or variant on. This kind of infotainment (in my view) was astounding at the time, and brought together artists across disciplines, researchers and writers etc to create them. My view is that Gaming culture has taken more of this ground in the past 20 years than 'books' have, and it is these other histories that need to be acknowledged if we are going to discuss new media correctly, and relevant to how book artists approach these new forms.

I am excited to look at these avenues as well, it is thoroughly interesting what people can and are doing, but forcing books into/onto this realm will not 'save them' nor make them more or less relevant. It will diversify the practices of book artists, but if we are to discuss this new field or have a theoretical discourse supporting/behind these new works, we must acknowledge that we are book artists entering another field. We need to know the history of these forms we are entering into. Book artists are getting explorative and that's great. However, I think the language is not quite correct, and a big chunk of history and development post computers is being overlooked, and probably under-researched.

I go back to Tim Mosely's comment, 'no matter what people call it, I will make the things I am making'. That is the way we should and need to proceed, I just think we need to be more particular about labels we ascribe to different kinds of work.

At an exhibition a few years back, Monica Oppen and I got into a thorough discussion about what a book was, and she had quite particular views on what that was. At the time I resisted and asserted that if it came from books it was book, but on reflection, I think she is correct. A book is a book as it has a certain form and History. Just like the new forms we are exploring, we just need the find the right context to situate and discuss different and diverse activities.

Perhaps another reason to explore the field under Publishing as Artistic Practice.

 

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